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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-101231</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Paul. Interesting how the comment through everything off. In general you never need to any those comments about which program was used to edit a file. Still it&#039;s interesting how it sent IE into quirks mode.

On the positive side having to spend all that time trying to figure out what was wrong, while frustrating, made you a better coder. Similar things happened to me when I was first learning this stuff. I&#039;d be chasing down some error. I&#039;d learn so much along the way, often new things not connected to the problem I was trying to solve.

By the way if you&#039;re interested in css positioning, I wrote another post dedicated to the subject.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/css-positioning/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Well Do You Understand CSS Positioning?&lt;/a&gt;

Hopefully you find it helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul. Interesting how the comment through everything off. In general you never need to any those comments about which program was used to edit a file. Still it&#8217;s interesting how it sent IE into quirks mode.</p>
<p>On the positive side having to spend all that time trying to figure out what was wrong, while frustrating, made you a better coder. Similar things happened to me when I was first learning this stuff. I&#8217;d be chasing down some error. I&#8217;d learn so much along the way, often new things not connected to the problem I was trying to solve.</p>
<p>By the way if you&#8217;re interested in css positioning, I wrote another post dedicated to the subject.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/css-positioning/" rel="nofollow">How Well Do You Understand CSS Positioning?</a></p>
<p>Hopefully you find it helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Daly</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-101225</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Daly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a problem getting this layout to work in IE7 and IE8 while I was playing around with the layout to see how it worked and to learn more about css layout. I&#039;d used topstyle free to edit the HTML file and it added a &quot;edited with topstyle&quot; comment as the first line in front of the Doctype declaration. This apparently triggers a bug in IE7 and IE8 which switches the browser into quirks mode which caused the content DIV to not overlap the menu DIV even though I&#039;d removed the content DIV margin. At first I simply got confused and thought I&#039;d misunderstood the basic concept of document flow and positioning etc but after a bit of removing of apparantly extraneous lines of HTML and trying and then a bit of internet searching found info on the pre doctype declaration comment quirks mode bug which restored my understanding of your layout principles. 

Your article is one of the clearest explanations of css positioning I&#039;ve come across, many thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a problem getting this layout to work in IE7 and IE8 while I was playing around with the layout to see how it worked and to learn more about css layout. I&#8217;d used topstyle free to edit the HTML file and it added a &#8220;edited with topstyle&#8221; comment as the first line in front of the Doctype declaration. This apparently triggers a bug in IE7 and IE8 which switches the browser into quirks mode which caused the content DIV to not overlap the menu DIV even though I&#8217;d removed the content DIV margin. At first I simply got confused and thought I&#8217;d misunderstood the basic concept of document flow and positioning etc but after a bit of removing of apparantly extraneous lines of HTML and trying and then a bit of internet searching found info on the pre doctype declaration comment quirks mode bug which restored my understanding of your layout principles. </p>
<p>Your article is one of the clearest explanations of css positioning I&#8217;ve come across, many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-89222</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you post a link or send me the code I can take a quick look at what the problem might be. The width part should be easy. You just have to make sure all the widths (including left and right padding) add up.

For example if your overall page is 800px you could make each column 400px. When you start adding margins around the columns or padding within you&#039;ll likely need to adjust the column widths.

Unlimited height is a little different. If you don&#039;t specify a value for the height then the columns will expand as the content inside them grows. Having them always be equal height is tricky though. There are a variety of solutions to the problem, but it&#039;s one thing css hasn&#039;t always done well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you post a link or send me the code I can take a quick look at what the problem might be. The width part should be easy. You just have to make sure all the widths (including left and right padding) add up.</p>
<p>For example if your overall page is 800px you could make each column 400px. When you start adding margins around the columns or padding within you&#8217;ll likely need to adjust the column widths.</p>
<p>Unlimited height is a little different. If you don&#8217;t specify a value for the height then the columns will expand as the content inside them grows. Having them always be equal height is tricky though. There are a variety of solutions to the problem, but it&#8217;s one thing css hasn&#8217;t always done well.</p>
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		<title>By: Beauford</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-88914</link>
		<dc:creator>Beauford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 23:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is where I don&#039;t get CSS. When I try to edit this so I have both left and right columns the same width and unlimited height, it just becomes a mess. I simply need two colums with a border around the whole thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is where I don&#8217;t get CSS. When I try to edit this so I have both left and right columns the same width and unlimited height, it just becomes a mess. I simply need two colums with a border around the whole thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-58763</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I could help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I could help.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Paolo. I&#039;m sorry I didn&#039;t see your comment until now. It depends how your site is set up, but you might try wrapping both the menu and the content in a container div and applying the border to the container div.

If that doesn&#039;t work then you could try adding 3 sides of borders around each of the menu and content and don&#039;t add any border to where the two connect. Assuming there&#039;s no space between menu and content that should give the effect of a single border around both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Paolo. I&#8217;m sorry I didn&#8217;t see your comment until now. It depends how your site is set up, but you might try wrapping both the menu and the content in a container div and applying the border to the container div.</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work then you could try adding 3 sides of borders around each of the menu and content and don&#8217;t add any border to where the two connect. Assuming there&#8217;s no space between menu and content that should give the effect of a single border around both.</p>
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		<title>By: Abhijit V. Chaore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhijit V. Chaore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good technique. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good technique. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: paolo</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-42746</link>
		<dc:creator>paolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 10:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

i want to ask how can i make a border that will be round menu and content, becouse ive got div which separates them from other staff but it doesnt work, thanks for help, i cant find it anywhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>i want to ask how can i make a border that will be round menu and content, becouse ive got div which separates them from other staff but it doesnt work, thanks for help, i cant find it anywhere</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-41725</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 17:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad you figured it out. I was going to suggest that the container wasn&#039;t wide enough, but you beat me to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you figured it out. I was going to suggest that the container wasn&#8217;t wide enough, but you beat me to it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/css/2-column-css-layout/comment-page-1/#comment-41723</link>
		<dc:creator>David Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please ignore my last comment. It turns out my page width was fewer pixels than my menu width plus my content width.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please ignore my last comment. It turns out my page width was fewer pixels than my menu width plus my content width.</p>
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