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	<title>Comments on: At Digg, The Inmates Now Run The Asylum</title>
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		<title>By: Digg + Microsoft = ? - TheVanBlog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Digg + Microsoft = ? - TheVanBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 00:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Long term I think Digg loses (maybe). I think this will drive another wedge between the community and the site. Digg the site doesn&#8217;t seem to be paying attention to Digg the community. Digg is pro Apple, pro Linux, and anti-Microsoft. Knowing that why would you make a deal with Microsoft and risk alienating your community. Most diggers really won&#8217;t care one way or another despite what they say, but should they begin to suspect that pro Microsoft stories are getting dugg more while pro Apple and Linux stories are getting buried expect them to once again take over the asylum [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Long term I think Digg loses (maybe). I think this will drive another wedge between the community and the site. Digg the site doesn&#38;#8217;t seem to be paying attention to Digg the community. Digg is pro Apple, pro Linux, and anti-Microsoft. Knowing that why would you make a deal with Microsoft and risk alienating your community. Most diggers really won&#38;#8217;t care one way or another despite what they say, but should they begin to suspect that pro Microsoft stories are getting dugg more while pro Apple and Linux stories are getting buried expect them to once again take over the asylum [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/social-media/at-digg-the-inmates-now-run-the-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 02:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure Kevin Rose knows what he feels is right on this. It&#039;s possible the hex was originally removed at the request of HD-DVD or on the advice of a lawyer. Later Kevin caved to the masses and put it back. I&#039;m not sure we&#039;ll know what the events will mean for some time, but it definitely feels like a significant moment for Digg and social media sites in general.

Web 2.0 is in part about giving control over to your users, but I&#039;m not sure anyone was prepared for something quite like this. My hunch is diggers will be quicker to make demands of Kevin and Digg in the future and if they don&#039;t get their way they&#039;ll start throwing tantrums.

In all fairness to Kevin he probably didn&#039;t have a very good day and I don&#039;t envy him his decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure Kevin Rose knows what he feels is right on this. It&#8217;s possible the hex was originally removed at the request of HD-DVD or on the advice of a lawyer. Later Kevin caved to the masses and put it back. I&#8217;m not sure we&#8217;ll know what the events will mean for some time, but it definitely feels like a significant moment for Digg and social media sites in general.</p>
<p>Web 2.0 is in part about giving control over to your users, but I&#8217;m not sure anyone was prepared for something quite like this. My hunch is diggers will be quicker to make demands of Kevin and Digg in the future and if they don&#8217;t get their way they&#8217;ll start throwing tantrums.</p>
<p>In all fairness to Kevin he probably didn&#8217;t have a very good day and I don&#8217;t envy him his decision.</p>
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		<title>By: matt J</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 20:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only got wind of this a couple of days ago. I didn&#039;t realise it was this big.

kevin Rose should stand up for himself and do what he feels is right, Which obviously is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; posting the hex as he had it removed so many times, rather than hand all control of digg over to it&#039;s moronic user base which consists of mostly 12 year olds.. Let&#039;s face it, The &quot;digg community&quot; isn&#039;t going to be up in court over this, It will be kevin rose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only got wind of this a couple of days ago. I didn&#8217;t realise it was this big.</p>
<p>kevin Rose should stand up for himself and do what he feels is right, Which obviously is <b>not</b> posting the hex as he had it removed so many times, rather than hand all control of digg over to it&#8217;s moronic user base which consists of mostly 12 year olds.. Let&#8217;s face it, The &#8220;digg community&#8221; isn&#8217;t going to be up in court over this, It will be kevin rose.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Bradley</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/social-media/at-digg-the-inmates-now-run-the-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 03:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always assumed the general lack of maturity would do in Digg. I figured as the current group of Diggers got a little older they would begin to dislike the place and the next generation would rebel a bit and move on to the next social media site. In all fairness to Digg not everyone there is immature. Unfortunately the more mature aren&#039;t as vocal.

I don&#039;t think this was staged at all. I think it was a genuine decisions and the right decision to remove the key and then later it was Kevin Rose surrendering because he was worried what the community would do.

I couldn&#039;t tell you how many Diggers would know what to do with the key, but I suspect it&#039;s actually quite a lot. We&#039;re talking a young, geeky crowd that loves Linux, CDs and, DVDs, and hates the man as represented by the record companies, movies studios, and for most of a day Digg itself.

That&#039;s what I&#039;m wondering Dave. I think for the most part we&#039;ll see things the same as they were before all this started. I expect all the existing social media sites to be doing business as usual and most programmers trying to figure out how to create the next big social media site so they can sell to Yahoo or Google.

However I wonder what the stance will be from traditional and more conservative companies who have been thinking of adding social media features. USA Today has had some recent success and grew subscriptions when it added things like a voting system. I have a feeling other companies may hesitate to do the same now. At the very least social media may become a little less democratic and open than it was a few days ago.

By the way if you&#039;re wondering about web 3.0 come back tomorrow. I&#039;ll be linking out to a post that attempts to define what web 3.0 will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always assumed the general lack of maturity would do in Digg. I figured as the current group of Diggers got a little older they would begin to dislike the place and the next generation would rebel a bit and move on to the next social media site. In all fairness to Digg not everyone there is immature. Unfortunately the more mature aren&#8217;t as vocal.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this was staged at all. I think it was a genuine decisions and the right decision to remove the key and then later it was Kevin Rose surrendering because he was worried what the community would do.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t tell you how many Diggers would know what to do with the key, but I suspect it&#8217;s actually quite a lot. We&#8217;re talking a young, geeky crowd that loves Linux, CDs and, DVDs, and hates the man as represented by the record companies, movies studios, and for most of a day Digg itself.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what I&#8217;m wondering Dave. I think for the most part we&#8217;ll see things the same as they were before all this started. I expect all the existing social media sites to be doing business as usual and most programmers trying to figure out how to create the next big social media site so they can sell to Yahoo or Google.</p>
<p>However I wonder what the stance will be from traditional and more conservative companies who have been thinking of adding social media features. USA Today has had some recent success and grew subscriptions when it added things like a voting system. I have a feeling other companies may hesitate to do the same now. At the very least social media may become a little less democratic and open than it was a few days ago.</p>
<p>By the way if you&#8217;re wondering about web 3.0 come back tomorrow. I&#8217;ll be linking out to a post that attempts to define what web 3.0 will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave W</title>
		<link>http://www.vanseodesign.com/social-media/at-digg-the-inmates-now-run-the-asylum/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole situation makes me wonder what will happen to &quot;Web 2.0&quot;. Will it&#039;s life span be as short lived as the Macarena craze? Will &quot;Web 3.0&quot; become the new moniker for &quot;corporate interests always win out over the little guy&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole situation makes me wonder what will happen to &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243;. Will it&#8217;s life span be as short lived as the Macarena craze? Will &#8220;Web 3.0&#8243; become the new moniker for &#8220;corporate interests always win out over the little guy&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: SEFL</title>
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		<dc:creator>SEFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Forrest here.  I always thought the spam would be the thing that would slowly render Digg (and other social bookmarking sites) useless; I put links to them in my blog and hope people will bookmark the site, but it hasn&#039;t happened yet and I don&#039;t expect it will before the end draws near.

I gotta admit that I never saw something like this coming, although with Digg users it doesn&#039;t surprise me.  The geek community will always fight back against anything that takes away their contrived sense of entitlement, and this is a classic example of such.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Forrest here.  I always thought the spam would be the thing that would slowly render Digg (and other social bookmarking sites) useless; I put links to them in my blog and hope people will bookmark the site, but it hasn&#8217;t happened yet and I don&#8217;t expect it will before the end draws near.</p>
<p>I gotta admit that I never saw something like this coming, although with Digg users it doesn&#8217;t surprise me.  The geek community will always fight back against anything that takes away their contrived sense of entitlement, and this is a classic example of such.</p>
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		<title>By: Forrest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Forrest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 07:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This won&#039;t be popular, but the first thing that comes to mind is this is a charade.  Most of the Digg community, likened to a plague of locusts, has no idea what to do with the decryption key.  The Linux C++ programmers writing the ripping code don&#039;t need Digg to find the key, and the millions of Diggers who were shown the bytes wouldn&#039;t be able to use them if their lives depended on it.  All of this is for show, both on the part of Digg users, and the legal response we all know is coming.

Users shutting the site down is pretty big.  This is going to send shock-waves through Wall Street that ripple throughout the &quot;web 2.0&quot; world.  No one predicted liability would be the end of Digg;  spam was supposed to do that, in a slower, more lingering fashion.  Investors are learning what site owners have known for years - it takes more than a server and some code to be successful.  Still, a bunch of angry humans causing a distributed denial of service attack isn&#039;t &quot;the revolution.&quot;

We&#039;ve learned (again) that information is self-replicating.  People &quot;dugg&quot; articles with a decryption key they had no idea how to use simply because they found the idea of a secret being leveraged against the public (for profit) repugnant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This won&#8217;t be popular, but the first thing that comes to mind is this is a charade.  Most of the Digg community, likened to a plague of locusts, has no idea what to do with the decryption key.  The Linux C++ programmers writing the ripping code don&#8217;t need Digg to find the key, and the millions of Diggers who were shown the bytes wouldn&#8217;t be able to use them if their lives depended on it.  All of this is for show, both on the part of Digg users, and the legal response we all know is coming.</p>
<p>Users shutting the site down is pretty big.  This is going to send shock-waves through Wall Street that ripple throughout the &#8220;web 2.0&#8243; world.  No one predicted liability would be the end of Digg;  spam was supposed to do that, in a slower, more lingering fashion.  Investors are learning what site owners have known for years &#8211; it takes more than a server and some code to be successful.  Still, a bunch of angry humans causing a distributed denial of service attack isn&#8217;t &#8220;the revolution.&#8221;</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve learned (again) that information is self-replicating.  People &#8220;dugg&#8221; articles with a decryption key they had no idea how to use simply because they found the idea of a secret being leveraged against the public (for profit) repugnant.</p>
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